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NBC's Miklaszewski minimized House waterboarding prohibition as "poke in the eye of the administration"

Summary: In a report on the newly passed House bill containing a prohibition on the interrogation technique known as waterboarding, NBC News' Jim Miklaszewski asserted that the House included the "waterboarding clause" "pretty much to ensure that it doesn't happen, but also ... [as] a poke in the eye of the administration, clearly." But the Army field manual's prohibition on the use of waterboarding currently applies only to the Department of Defense; the House bill would expand that prohibition to cover "the United States Government."

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Posted by snoopy

Actually, I agree that it was a political poke in the eye. Sometimes these schmucks just need to be embarrassed on a national level to get a clue. The right knows this, they blew it years ago thinking you could do it on a daily basis against democrats and be successful. They have no credibility anymore, it's like the boy who cry'd wolf. But oh, the wonders of life. The Democrats can ramp up now and run with this for at least a year! Paybacks, baby!

Posted by wolf kotenberg

in my opinion waterboarding is either a method to extract dubious information or just plain punishment. In either case, humane treatment of captured soldiers , from either side, is number one national policy. On a one by one case, don't tell me your methods of obtaining intelligence. Some bad guys are really bad guys and only live by the sword.

Posted by captfoster2 in reply to wolf kotenberg

WOLF,

Not only will I sencond your post......but I would like to add that it should .... any human... not just soldiers!

Yes, I know that soldiers do the fighting but if I were to be on vacation anywhere in the world and was kiddnapped by a 'terrorist'... once he knew I was an American, I can't imagine being given any leeway since my own government doesn't seem to want to recognize the difference either.....

TORTURE of any kind (whether by your own hand or ordered by a leader) on ANYBODY ANYWHERE should absolutely be banned (and punishable by life in prison!)... President or VP or Dictator be damned!

PERIOD END OF STORY!!

Posted by sluggo

When these guys start ad-libbing on the air NBC should put up some kind of crawler on the screen and below their faces saying something like "Warning: the opinions you are about to hear are likely not true, often inanely presented,  and only represent the ideas (or lack thereof) of the individuals speaking..."

Better yet, just send out paper copies so I can permanently affix one to the bottom of by television screen. 

Posted by conleytgwinn

Yet another purpose of embedding the prohibition in law is the fact that Bungle (or his successors) could, as he had already done, rewrite the Field Manual. That is what happened once during his term, and could be pulled off in 20 minutes even on a busy day, by another such lunatic if that nut decided to remove some inconvenience in the existing manual.

Posted by conleytgwinn in reply to conleytgwinn

However, it should not be necessary to pas yet another law which the Administration might decide to ignore, as Bungle has ignored most of the existing law on this and other matters, and the Constitution itself.

What might be more appropriate would be to render about 5,000 of those most responsible directly to the Syrians and the Iranians and the Iraqis who have taken a dim view of the War Crimes Administration. Or should we first see if unanimously that 5,000 would plead with us to restore the "old" Constitution?

Posted by lapsedlawyer in reply to conleytgwinn

However, it should not be necessary to pas yet another law which the Administration might decide to ignore, as Bungle has ignored most of the existing law on this and other matters, and the Constitution itself.

True, plus it sets a precedent wherein all methods of torture -- oops! Meant "enhanced interrogation" for any of the FBI/CIA/NSA spies out there -- must be banned by specific and separate pieces of legislation.

Love the rendition suggestion, btw.

Posted by conleytgwinn in reply to lapsedlawyer

Thanks - I always figured that the only way to get these miscreants to support the Constitution, or any law or treaty, would be to make not only their lives, but their (relative) comfort during their lives, depend upon the most strenuous upholding of all those "liberal" provisions which the thugs normally decry or ignore.

I'd even bet that the countries to which we might forcibly render our War Criminals, would do a better job of preserving the lives of these quasi-human creatures, than we have done with regard to their citizens we have interrogated (over 50 recorded deaths duringor immediately subsequent to, interrogations, thus far - and those are our numbers, which I have little reason to trust.)

Posted by efd6352020

Hey Captfoster, Do you honestly believe that you would get "leeway" from a terrorist under any circumstances???

KSM didn't deserve a bath??? Why don't you guys worry more about the human rights violations going on in Iran where they murder homosexuals in the town square.... instead of a little harmless water on someone who murdered over 300 of our innocent firemen.

Posted by solon in reply to efd6352020

A little harmless water? You are SICK and need to go looking for your soul. It apparantly discarded you and went searching for a more worthy receptacle, like a garden slug. Terrorists do what THEY do and are defined by that. We should do what is RIGHT so we wont be defined the same way. We rightfully despise terrorists so why are you suggesting we become more like them, oh, right, soul gone.