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Beck falsely claimed Dem candidates have not supported striking writers

Summary: On his CNN Headline News program, Glenn Beck repeatedly suggested that the top Democratic presidential candidates have not shown support for the ongoing Writers Guild strike. In fact, all of the Democratic front-runners have expressed support for the striking writers. John Edwards joined them on a Los Angeles picket line, and Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton each issued statements of support for the writers. The candidates also withdrew from a planned December 10 CBS News debate, forcing its cancellation.
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Posted by tommy

Medved is correct, it is absolutely none of the Democratic, or Republican, candidate's business involving themselves in this strike.  Beck is out there, again.

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to tommy

The fact Beck has to ask "[W]hy haven't any of the Democratic candidates joined them on the picket line?" shows he's talking out of his ass once again.

Is it too much to ask these pundits know what they're talking about before they open their mouths?

Posted by tommy in reply to johnny_nyc8351

Just as I criticize Edwards and others for engaging in "class warfare", the same criticism should be leveled at Beck for his "cultural warfare" as well, telling us how out of touch the Oscar nominated films are with the "American mainstream".......it's ridiculous.  

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to tommy

I don't know which I mind more, ginning up a "culture war" for ratings or flat out not knowing what you're talking about and earning millions in spite of it.

Either is dangerous on their own, combined they're lethal.

I don't think there's any moral equivalency between Edwards and O'Reilly, Beck, Gibson and the other culture warriors.

Posted by mary59 in reply to tommy

I'm stepping in a cow pie by responding to the mention of Edwards...however,

class warfare? All this "war" this, "war" that...no one I know has taken a bullet in "class warfare."

Edwards sees a divide between the super rich and the poor and shrinking middle class. He's describing a reality. It's not likely to get better by ignoring it.

I'm sure that you will spend pages arguing, but I gotta go. Have a good weekend.

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to mary59

"Class warfare" is a Republican talking point.

Posted by tommy in reply to johnny_nyc8351

I only mentioned it in the context related above.  Argue it somewhere else.

Posted by MiddleLeft in reply to johnny_nyc8351

Is it too much to ask these pundits know what they're talking about before they open their mouths?

Beck, even more than the others, seems to simply "make up the facts"  on the fly if it supports his story of the moment.  Ignore Tommy's mis-direction. 

"Yes Beck is bad but there are other bad things too, in my opinion".

 

 

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to MiddleLeft

I don't buy into the "everything is morally equivalent to everything else" defense conservatives fall back on when they have to defend an indefensible position.

It's as bad as the "Clinton did it first" argument they used to use when they still believed W was the Second Coming.

Posted by tommy in reply to MiddleLeft

Did you even read what I wrote, or is it just your reflexive idiocy showing?

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to tommy

...as well as their penchant to fall back on personal insults when all else fails.

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to johnny_nyc8351

In an effort to avoid another multi-page thread about nothing:

pen·chant: a strong inclination, taste, or liking for something: a penchant for outdoor sports.

Posted by tommy in reply to johnny_nyc8351

Apparently it was an apt description considering the "mis-direction" comment made no sense.  If you want to scold people for their personal insults, you'll be plenty busy with your fellow liberals and their way with words - but be the hall monitor if you so choose.

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to tommy

...as well as the "liberals do it too so I'm not personally responsibility for what I type" argument.

Posted by johnny_nyc8351 in reply to johnny_nyc8351

or responsible.. whichever makes more sense.

Posted by roundhouse in reply to tommy

Wrong. The candidates have every bit as much at stake in a healthy labor movement as they do a healthy economy, in fact the two are connected.

Posted by tommy in reply to roundhouse

It's none of their business, they are not being asked to mediate, nor should they involve themselves in somebody else's disputes.  I disagree with you and Beck.

Posted by roundhouse in reply to tommy

Fine disagree.

Posted by roundhouse in reply to roundhouse

Disagree. But your dead wrong.

It is the business of every American who so chooses to get involved. It's not like a labor strike is private, in fact strikes are staged with the intention of getting as many supporters involved as possible.

Posted by tommy in reply to roundhouse

Of course they're private, they are between the employer and their representatives and the employee and theirs.  Of course you want to inflame the situation and force people to choose sides in a dispute they have no part in, because that is labor's tactics, but it's ridiculous.

Posted by BillJ-MN in reply to tommy

No, it's not ridiculous for labor to enlist public support.  It's very smart.  When there is a workers' strike with which I'm in agreement I refuse to give the company my business and I make a point of letting them know that I'm doing so.  I appreciate the effort of the union to let me know of their situation.

Is the strike none of my business?  Am I out of line trying to influence the resolution?  Hell no!!  I consider my involvement to be responsible, supportive of labor and even patriotic.

Posted by roundhouse in reply to tommy

BillJ is right. It's patriotic to show one's support for labor strikes and I'll add that it is not a private matter because the triumphs and gains of workers are good for us all.

And since you're assigning motives to my opinion I might as well point out your anti-democratic, corporatist motive is to keep labor weak and compliant.

Posted by historygeek001 in reply to tommy

Tommy,

The WGA strike is not private, every strike is public.  Many strikes-though by no means all-are, at their core, arguments about one set of people profiting from the work done by another set.  There needs to be a balance between workers and management all across the board, so strikes are definitely public business.

If you have paid attention, the WGA is asking for a share of internet profits.  They aren't demanding a huge share, simply a comparable amount to that which they currently get in other venues.  They currently get NOTHING, and this is a significant source of income.  Before you decide which group is in the right imagine yourself on both sides.  Remember, the writers are not the wealthy ones in this dispute.

Posted by dexteritas0071418

Beck, I don't think you've really explained why I should care, either way.

Posted by roundhouse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWJtSgSnjE

"It's a great privilege for me to be here with all of you today...to walk with you, to walk the lines with you...because what you represent and what you are standing for is to make sure that everybody in America gets a fair chance. we have to strengthen the union movement in America...it is the only way that we will ensure that these big corporate conglomerates don't take over the United States of America." John Edwards, on the picket line



Later, speaking to the press:

"The men and women who are part of the writers guild and are part of this strike, are actually the heart and soul of the creative effort. These men and women deserve a fair chance...these are people who work hard for a living....my party, the Democratic Party is supposed to represent the people, it's supposed to represent workers in America and we have to make sure their voices are heard...one of the things that we have a big problem with in America is the conglomeration and consolidation of the media. " - John Edwards

Beck is an idiot.

Posted by Clevenative

Uhhh, Glenn McFly - could it be because they are out campaigning for the Presidency of The United States?

I can almost guarantee that, if the strike is still on, you'll see images of all 3 of the Democratic candidates joining in the picket lines once they get to campaigning in L.A..

Of course then we'll see the Doughboy pasting those images up behind him poking fun of their "pandering the Hollywood weirdos".

The man's a total idiot!

Posted by dbeden4153

GLENN BECK EVERYBODY!
(clapping)

Posted by dbeden4153

BTW, if you have the stomach for it, check out CD"s blog.  He tries to say Obama is a scab because he went on the Letterman show.  And I guess someone had to explain to him that Letterman made a deal with the WGA.  Hilarious.

Posted by moe

The Beaver has gone from mildly entertaining (in a mud-wrestling kind of way) to pathetic.  After watching this, I actually started to feel sorry for the guy.  He's so frequently out of his depth on the topic of the day that it makes me squirm.  Beaver, repeat after me...puff pieces...puff pieces.

Good luck lil' fella...we're pulling for you!