Beck says "She's the stereotypical bitch." Then, when he's called out about it, he says

Beck then said: "No, you know what? Here's the thing: Calling her that -- no. I don't think I'd call her that. I hope I've never called her that."

 

BECK: ...And she had that tone of voice, where she just sounds like [covers his ears]. I can't listen to it 'cause it sounds like -- it sounds like my wife saying, "Take out the garbage."

OK, Beck is afraid of Clinton as president because he hates his wife, and he's lazy. Good to know my fellow Americans are taking that valuable vote, and casting it based on substance. 

I think Beck hates his wife almost as much as Chris Matthews hates his wife. At least judging by the way they constantly refer to females in general.

OK, Beck is afraid of Clinton as president because he hates his wife, and he's lazy. Good to know my fellow Americans are taking that valuable vote, and casting it based on substance.

- COL. HARLAN SANDERS / Friday May 30, 2008 9:30:48 PM EDT

I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how Beck's wife feels about him calling Hillary a bitch because she reminds him of his wife.

Hi Juliajayne.

Do I have to take out the trash? That's like paying my taxes without crying,or voting based on something other than video clips of a candidates pastor.

Bitch. And I mean that only in the most loving way.

At least I didn't say See you next Tuesday.  ;0)

Yeah, Col., I figured someone would call me the "b" word. But I never dreamed it would be you. Eejit baby talker. And I mean that in the kindest way :-0)

Now take out the trash and quitcher' cryin'.

No dame tells me when to quit cryin' !! I may just have a little fainting spell lined up, and if you've got a problem with that, tough cookies.

I hope we're not going to get the nauseating harrangue back and forth from a few males about whether it's appropriatre or sexist to use this word to describe a female (or her voice). Guys, it's not okay. Beginning, middle and end of story. I don't want some lame comparison to calling a guy a d**k. This is a ubiquitous word used to dehumanize and sunjugate and disrespect women. It is nasty and it's frequency of use does nothing to mitigate the hurt it causes. I don't care whether it's a female or male using it. Whoopi Goldberg already did the experiment of trying to "take control" of the word and she admitted it failed just as AAs using the "N' word has failed.

You can just imagine how I feel about the "C" word :-0)

End of diatribe.

You can just imagine how I feel about the "C" word :-0)

- JULIAJAYNE / Friday May 30, 2008 9:37:44 PM EDT

That one's been slung at Hillary too, by GOP operative Roger Stone, who started the group "Citizens United Not Timid" to go after her. This guy draws a paycheck from the RNC and is a guest pundit on multiple networks. He's also a wife-swapper and got caught in the same hooker sting that netted Spitzer, got to love the party of family values, eh?

You can imagine how I feel about the c word, JJ! ;)

That darn outside voice again...

But it really is quite funny how all these right wingers claim it's the left that hates the most, but who on the left has called candidates ugly names on air, let alone call for assasinations of Democratic leaders? No, it's definitely the right that has hate locked, cocked and loaded.

Well, not just the right calling names etc.

Lots of the lefty pundits have done this to Hillary too. Particularly on MSNBC of course.

Barnacle has said a lot,  Matthews! YIKES.

Schuster, and of course the big O. the worst of all.

I've never seen venom like that, plus belittling and demeaning which you could say is not "sexist" per se but if it is used against a woman and not a man and is never used that way towards a man in the same position/way then yeah, it is sexist. Or mayby misogynist?

 

I know most people don't think Matthews is left but comparatively speaking, he is not neocon or right wing nut.

 

He almost had me today when he was talking about sexism with 3 women. Hillary Rosen and 2 more. Rachel Carlson and I forget the other one. Anyway, it went sort of like you would expect. Carlson so seems to really hate Clinton and she was harshest and of course would not let up.

Anyway, Rosen was saying that no one is claiming least of all Clinton that she is losing because of sexism but that sexism is present.

By the end Matthews is saying something about he needs to learn more, what does it say. I don't think I like what it says.

 

I was actually touched for a moment.

Next segment he talks about the new hate video from Trinity and asks if its important, does it mean anything, what does it matter...using very almost amused descriptives!

aiyeeee. 

I know

The overt misogyny has been gaining critical mass, so much so, that I've often felt that Hillary could win with just the angry female voters alone. And I have been chagrined at the hate from the left as well as right. It's enough to make you start taking the stuff personally.

Okay, the executives on Headline News must be heartless profit meisters. The whole atmosphere this campaign about sexism and then Glenn just buries himself with this crap. And in the executive offices, NO ONE questions this? It doesn't make sense but then again I've never programmed a network. Everytime I say network I think of the film "Network" and prescient it has become.

YES!

Now when do we all start screaming out the windows?

Every time I do it somebody calls the cops.

LOL!We need critical mass. 

Rush junior, who's nephew is this guy?

I don't like Glenn Baeck. In fact I've barely ever seen him, He is uncommfortable just to watch, his mannerisms etc.

But I saw a post with a link and in the video he was defending Hillary Clinton.

 

I was shiocked.

Ben Stein was there.

He was too.

 

It was about the RFK thing. He showed the WHOLE clip and parsed it.

He was the only pundit or "news" personality or whatever the hell he is that  did that. Some of them did the little dance of well she probably didn't mean that but kept the story going, analyzing, debating etc.

I know there are people who fully believe that she is that evil and would do something like that.

 

I'm not one of them and neither is RFK Jr. apparently since he came out very strongly in her defense. They are friends and apparently he thinks she is very much like his father. well, RFK was a Scorpio too I think. ;-) that just occurred to me.Silly, but interesting.

\Anyway, RFK had a post on that mega aggregate blog site that has the same initials as PC's and other office equipment.

 He made mention of that in the piece.

 

You know it gets bad when you can't say the name of a website.

First it was the idiot king's name I couldn't bear to say, then Darth Vader and a few others.

Now that site that shall not be named.

 

It is definitely getting to be silly season.

sorry for my rambling. 

 

 

OH, I forgot.

She thinks it is self defeating for the candidate to talk about it.

 That sounds so  bad to me.

Just keep quiet like a good little girl or you will make the boys mad and they will pick on you even more.

 

huh?

 

well, perhaps if some of these leading feminist voices had stood up and said "Wait a minute here..." the candidate wouldn't have had to... though I have rarely seen her do it and the times the media slammed her for it I thought was distorted garbage... and no I wasn't a Clinton supporter---Then---.

I was very disappointed in the women in the DNC, the  "leadiing feminist voices" and other women who didn't risk speaking out loud and clear. No matter who you support you should speak against these things to my mind anyway. If you don't it smacks of well, its bad, but its benefiting my candidate so I don't care.

If it was racism you can bet we would all be raising our voices and speaking out against it no matter who our candidate was.

 

OK, one more point and I'll shut up.

 

The other day a clip of Clinton interview (just voice) was played where she was asked about sexism and misogyny. She said yes it had been present but she didn't say it was the media, in fact I thought she was careful not to say it. What she did say is that the media didn't cover the sexism and virulant miogyny and "hate speech" (my word) like they did racism.

All the shows picked it up and said she was complaining that sexism in the media is to blame for her losing. I swear she did not say that. Is there no critical thinking left in the entire punditry?

And they went on from there, over and over in a zillion permutations yet what she said was that there was a lack of coverage.

Anyway, Rachel Maddow I think said they wished she had talked about gender more, she should have talked about the historical nature blah blah... HELLO?

I started having yet another cognitive dissonance  episode. My head just automatically bangs against the wall now.

 

Do they not remember slamming her if she did bring up gender?

She spoke at Wellsley and said something about the glass cieling and there were a couple of days of accusations and sneering and malice about her playing the gender card.

 

This brings me to this conclusion.

Hillary Clinton Can't Win.

And I'm not talking about the election.

There is some kind of strange cultural weirness around her. Its not enough to just say people don't like her, or she is whatever all the accusations are that people use. Lots of neocon garbage has been resurrected. Anyway, there are lots of people that people don't like but not with this kind of vituperative ugliness.(I mean besides the idiot king and Rovina)And anyway, it isn't even true because apparently 1/2 the Dem's voting do like her.

What the hell?

anyway.

I'm rambling and I'm sorry moderator.

Can you tell I'm female? I'm apologizing for taking up room.

LOL 

Hi Diana,

I can tell you're female, but more than that, I'm guessing you've been reading here and finally decided to post. I like the eruption from a new poster, it reminds the ones who've been posting regularly that they may be censoring themselves.

 

What a sickening little bit of "media" video this was to watch... I started by just reading the transcript: and when I had seen from it that the GMA hack-woman aired tape of this guy beck calling Sen. Clinton a witch, well I know right away, that it's an excuse to do just that thing: to air on the PUBLIC AIRWAVES someone calling Sen. Clinton a witch... I mean, ABC was just ticked off that they hadn't done it first, so what do they do? Why they just find tape of it being done, of Sen. Clinton being called a witch, and then they air that tape, on ABC, in a phony context of talking about "sexism" (a context that were it real, they wouldn't have found it so necessary to air the guy beck saying what he said, saying it now to ABC's PUBLIC AIRWAVES audience as well!)...

This still wasn't what made me listen to the sickening little bit of "media" video: it was when I saw in the transcript that the ABC hack-woman said...

SHIPMAN: But what about the "B" word?

...what? You just broadcast this guy calling Sen. Clinton a witch, on ABC, and then you descend to using the term "B-word"? Why do that? You think we'd be offended to hear you say witch? That's a joke, because why then did you just air the guy's tape?

And so I clicked the video, so I could be sure by my own ears, that this idiot hack-woman at ABC actually did that, and actually said "B-word" right after airing a tape of beck saying witch, right there on ABC.

But still, it was none of that up until then, that makes me call this video a sickening little bit of the "media":

It was when I heard the exact way this guy beck said the word witch, and the great emphasis he put on it... you have ears, I can't describe it for you here, in words... if you heard it yourself, then you know...

And I swear, the way he is heard drawing that word out emphatically, I think the Engineers at ABC helped out a little bit... I think they amplified and accentuated somehow, the way that word was broadcast, on the PUBLIC AIRWAVES, by ABC...

...and then the ABC hack-woman says "B-word"

Who are they kidding... how low and slimy can they go.

 

So if Hillary sounds like the Typical B@#$h, WHat Does GLenn Beck sound Like to you?  Typical egg headed nerd?  Typical D@#K?  Typical A@#h%$E?  Typical Dungeons and Dragons playing Dork who sees the war in Iraq as a game of stratego where soldiers are really just game pieces on a map board?  Does anyone here think that Beck was not a complete Tool growing up who often got picked on, beaten up and picked last at Kickball?

I am so tired of all these men talking about women as if we were trash and disposable.  The disrespect, nastiness and overt sexism is uncalled for; the fact that a female host on GMA would entertain this banter is even more disturbing.  Are these women so desperate to be accepted by this low caliber of men, that they have no properity, self respect or intergrity?   I always thought most of the media hosts were college educated people who know and understand how to use "big" words and put them in complete sentences, but I now know I was wrong.  And the media folks just don't understand why they are loosing audiences?!   As a college educated and professionally trained women, I have found this year's primary season, both exciting and disappointing.  The fact that so many women would throw over a candidate, like Hillary Clinton, for another member of the boys' club is disheartening, the fact that such foul language [especially the language used by other women] is used in describing Hillary and her supporters just proves that women are still the most abused group in the country and a lot of the pain is self-inflicted.   Just use similar language regarding black people and heads will roll;  mistreat women and not even a blip occurs and other women will participate in the abuse.

All I know, is that I have had more than enough and I refuse to hold my nose;  this dong time democrate I will use the write-in option this fall and vote for Hillary Clinton.  No more Ms. Nicegirl!   You jokers are going to be made irrelevant, even if you don't know what that means.

Many men, particularly those in positions of power, fear strong women.  I often wonder if it's because they know the women can do better.

The 'b and c' words, along with others that demean and belittle women should have no place in the media.  Otherwise let's hear 'c**k, a**h**e and s*n-o*-a-b***h as common when describing men with whom the talk-show hosts, columnists or news announcers disagree.

 

Wouldn't matter if Hillary were Harry. Man or woman, the person that is Hillary is just plain unlikable, untrustworthy and unsuited for the job of President.

As is Obama and that cranky Republican. But that's beside the point.

 

When was the last time you heard a guy named Harry called a nag or a b*tch?

Never?

End of argument.

It does matter that Hillary is a woman.

Ron Paul is right, regarding the war

elseahere, he's a skanky whore

Do we have a Paultard in our midst? Or just your garden variety losertarian? :-0)

I'd think you'd be glad, Julia, that Libertarians "steal" votes from Republicans... or so goes the conventional wisdom.

As for whom I voted for, yes, I did take - for the first time since 1988 - a Republican ballot to vote for Ron Paul. It was a damned hard thing to do, and not one that I will repeat this November.  

 

Thing is, I'm not crazy about supporting Bob Barr. Looks like I might be sitting out this Presidential election.

 

You can still vote for Ron Paul.

But saying the misogyny isn't "as bad as we're led to beleive" is such a guy attitude. Wake up and look around. That attitude doesn't just affect Hillary.

It isn't enough that I admit there ARE bona-fide woman-haters? I've met 'em. I've also met actual, by-God racists. They make me just as sick to my stomach as the former. What else do you want?

 

Bottleblonde, IMO it's more about *who* Hillary is, gender notwithstanding.. There are, admittedly, bona-fide knuckle-dragging woman-haters out there, but I doubt it's nearly as bad as we're led to believe.

I'm disappointed my party didn't nominate either of the women who ran for the top slot - I'd have proudly voted for Christine Smith or my personal favorite of the two, Mary Ruwart. But Bob Barr got the nomination, and I'm not sure I can support him, so it looks like I might just leave a box unchecked on the ballot this November.

 

You know, as bad as this statement [of Becks's] was, and it WAS bad, I have to give the guy some credit (as much as it pains me to do so):  This is the second tiome in just over a week that he's apologized for, acknowledge wrongness of, or at least backed off of some false or offensive comment he's made about the Clintons.  (First Bill's global warming / slow economy quote and now this.)  I'm not saying I like the guy - I still think he's a pinhead - but the ability to admit you're wrong, or that you went too far, shows that this guy has some charecter, at least as compared to the likes of Limbaugh & O'Rielly, for whom being conservative means never having to say you're sorry.  Granted that's not setting the bar very high, but credit where it's due. 

Sorry, Eddie. You are setting the bar on the floor.

LOL.  You're right, I am.  Plus, I'm giving him credit for going from "bitch" to "nag."  But he still (recently) has shown more char that Billo, Rush, Insanity, Savage, etc.  (Which, as you point out, is about as difficult as putting on a hat.)

burned out alkies used to do the decent thing, and just fade away. now, they get their own radio gigs. or get elected president.

damn, i should start drinking heavily, maybe it isn't too late!

"You can still vote for Ron Paul."

I could, but that would mean voting for a Republican this fall. I don't do that.