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Today double standard: Clinton, but not McCain, grilled on gas tax break proposal
Summary: When Sen. John McCain twice touted the idea of a gas tax "break" during an interview on NBC's Today, Matt Lauer failed to challenge him over whether economists believe a gas tax holiday is a good idea. But when Sen. Hillary Clinton mentioned her proposal "to get the gas tax paid this summer out of the record profits of the oil companies" on the same program a month earlier, Meredith Vieira challenged her, saying that economists are "saying it's not sound policy."
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Posted by mefirst
Posted Wednesday June 11, 2008 7:29:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to mefirst
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 12:40:05 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to carlileb5935
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:46:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to see it real
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 6:15:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2
Maybe next time they should get Meredith Vieira to interview McCain ;-)
I'm not sure why McCain is often treated with kid gloves. Now I know many will insist it's proof of a Conservative bias in the media, but I've seen bias work both ways during this election primary season.
Maybe they think of McCain as some elder statesman, not to be challenged, or a grandpa figure you pay special deference to, & don't want to embarrass.
Or maybe they [media] are afraid McCain will flash that temper of his :-O
Or maybe they are just too damn lazy, or they've come to like the old coot [oops that's ageism!!]
Bottom line: McCain should be grilled the same as any candidate. We should expect both he & Obama to be treated equally so voters have a clear picture of who they are voting for.
Posted Wednesday June 11, 2008 7:55:57 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to jeter2
Posted Wednesday June 11, 2008 9:45:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to jeter2
Maybe they think of McCain as some elder statesman, not to be challenged,
Whatever, Jeter. Obviously you don't think Grampy was challenged enough while held captive as a POW for 5 years! Now you want to punish him some more? Have some respect.
Posted Wednesday June 11, 2008 11:46:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by HughG in reply to jeter2
I'd like to see someone challenge McCain not only on his assertion that a cut in the federal gas tax would be sound economic policy, butt also on what he says, quoted here:
"...Americans who are on fixed income, particularly low-income Americans. That's why I want to give them a little break by the way. They drive the furthest. They drive the automobiles that use the most gas."
It's fairly common for conservatives to use their concern for low-income people as an excuse for their inherent dislike of some policies. For instance, I've heard it often as their reason for opposing environmental regulations: "it'll hurt the poor." They use it, these days, as they oppose caps on greenhouse gases: "third-world countries won't be able to compete." (Never mind that poor air and water quality has a greater impact on low-income people, and global warming poses a higher risk to third-world countries.)
Yep, their concern for the well-being of the less fortunate among us is mighty selective indeed. And here's McBush trotting out this excuse to push his rollback of the gas tax.
Butt: is he telling the truth?
Po folks ain't the ones driving Hummers and Cadillac Escalades. Fixed-income seniors aren't the people who drive 20K miles per year.
I think the ol' serial adulterer is playing fast and loose with the facts...and I wish someone would call him on it. Is that too much to ask?
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 6:14:37 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to jeter2
"Maybe next time they should get Meredith Vieira to interview McCain ;-)
I'm not sure why McCain is often treated with kid gloves. Now I know many will insist it's proof of a Conservative bias in the media, but I've seen bias work both ways during this election primary season."
Jeter, Liar McCain is being treated with kid gloves because it's the LATEST example of conservative media bias throughout the corporate conservative Republican Party controlled news media. The corporate conservative Republican Party controlled news media showed MONUMENTAL favoritism to Bush not just when he first ran in 2000, but even before he entered the 2000 Republican Primary Race in June of 1999, and they showed even MORE favoritism to Bush in the 2004 presidential election.
FYI, Meredith Vieria is also a right wing conservative Republican herself. BOTH Vieria and Lauer want Liar McCain to get elected.
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:50:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg
Posted Wednesday June 11, 2008 9:42:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NL207 in reply to wolf kotenberg
"witness his failed economc stymulus package "
This package did not start to be implemented until the end of April. There are no data available yet to support or reject your conclusion. Please demonstrate it has failed or retract this baseless statement.
Good numbers for Q2 2008 GDP will not be available until mid-July at the earliest. GDP for the last 2 years are contained in this article, which is written with the MSM's usual "let's talk down the economy bias". The raw GDP data say that (1) There is no recession now, (2) there has been no recession for the last 2 years. Even the "pessimistic" projections for the rest of the year in this article forecast continued economic growth to the end of 2008.
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:59:55 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DEMS_SOL in reply to NL207
NL - Please do let the facts get in the way of emotions. If people want to feel like they are in a recession then by golly they are! If people want to feel that other people are in a recession - who are you to tell them they are wrong? I think it is your post that is baseless because you did not take into account how some people might have felt when they woke up this morning. Now take it back!
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 9:35:47 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DEMS_SOL in reply to DEMS_SOL
NL - Please do not let the facts get in the way of emotions.
OOPs - I had to correct my above post so the sarcasim coulsd be better illustrated.
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 9:44:54 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skeptical in reply to NL207
NL,
What was the "good" news in that article?
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 1:21:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NL207 in reply to skeptical
Lireacy is apparently not one of your long suits. I could be wrong, but did I not see this in that article:
"National Association for Business Economics predict the economy will crawl along at a 0.4% growth rate in the April-to-June period, which is expected to be the weakest quarter of the year. Growth should pick up to a 2.2% pace in the third quarter, energized by the Fed's series of rate reductions and billions of dollars worth of tax rebates flowing into the hands of consumers"
The NABE predicts no business contraction at all and that growth will accelerate towards the end of the year.
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 2:22:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to NL207
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 5:40:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to NL207
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:49:35 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to wolf kotenberg
Wolf
It failed? If this is failure, we could use much much more of it.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080612/economy.html?.v=13
Looks like it is working fine to me, and your attempt to attack Bush has failed!!
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 12:16:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to pointofview
Yes, the economy is going just swimmingly! Just like the Iraq war!
What was that, another bank failed today? No problem, we'll just raise interest rates so the other banks can make a higher rate of return on their loans which will never be paid back.
Me? I used my rebate check to take out a new sub-prime loan on a fixer-upper. If the dollar stays strong and gas stays cheap, I'll be a millionaire in no time!
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 12:24:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to pointofview
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 5:47:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 12:34:44 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NL207 in reply to BottleBlonde
"the economic costs of the gas tax break "
There ARE no economic "costs" of the gas tax break. The gas tax is itself a burden imposed on the public by government force, as are all taxes. The government is not about economy. It is about waste. It is about inefficiency. It is about force.
The media's lack of challenge this Government imposition on the common people during "hard" economic times is evidence of liberal bias!
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 5:15:58 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to NL207
The gas tax is itself a burden imposed on the public by government force...
And the revenue from which goes to maintain the interstate highway system. Got any better ideas for maintaining safe highways? Perhaps citizens could pitch in on their free weekends to do a little highway work?
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 8:09:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NL207 in reply to IRONY 101
" maintain the interstate highway system."
I am confused. Which of the Article I, section 8 enumerated powers of Congress is this?
"Got any better ideas for maintaining safe highways?"
I have heard rumors that some states fund activities like this from something called 'tolls'. No doubt this is a new concept to you since you failed to mention it.
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 2:28:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DEMS_SOL in reply to NL207
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 9:42:37 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to NL207
"The gas tax is itself a burden imposed on the public by government force, as are all taxes."
How then, do you suggest we fund things like building highways? How about law officer and firefighter salaries? What about the defense budget? If you eliminate all taxes, how will we invade foreign countries??
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 12:26:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NL207 in reply to Kyle_Broflovski
"If you eliminate all taxes, how will we invade foreign countries??"
This is disappointing. I rather expected that would please you. Are we to infer that you favor invading foreign countries? Or do you only approve of such things when Mexicans invade our country?
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 3:26:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by historygeek001 in reply to NL207
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 1:28:12 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by sandss981580
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 11:41:01 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by ws84
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 2:39:53 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 3:01:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership in reply to RABBITLUVR
Nice catch here by Media Matters...
I just e-mailed Lauer. What a wimp.
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:36:13 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to Limit Corp. Ownership
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:52:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to Limit Corp. Ownership
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:52:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership in reply to see it real
You're right,
I was trying to be nice in my e-mail. I only called him a wimp.
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 6:53:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by JerryEckelberger6376
Oil companys make 4% profit on all the work they do to bring the oil to the gas stations. The federal government makes 15%, not to mention state, county and city taxes. How much work do these government enitities do to get gas at our stations?
Gerry
Posted Thursday June 12, 2008 4:32:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment