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Dick Morris repeated false and misleading claims about Obama's tax proposals on Hannity & Colmes and Today

Summary: On Fox News, Dick Morris asserted that as president, Sen. Barack Obama "would double the capital gains tax. That means that you get far less when you sell your home, or your 401(k) or your stock plan," and added, "[H]e would increase the limit on Social Security taxes, which means instead of paying 12 1/2 percent of the first $100,000, you pay it on everything that you're making." Morris' claims are false or highly misleading.
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Posted by nerzog

Yes, brother. Pity the top 2%...... they have sacrificed so much!

Posted by clams casino

[satire]But it's just Dick Morris's opinion, and we have no system in place that would determine whether or not he's telling the truth, so there's absolutely nothing that Lauer could have said or done to clarify or correct Morris's statements.[satire off]

Posted by stevensm in reply to clams casino

"Dick Morris repeated false and misleading claims"

What?! I'm shocked, simly shocked!

If it weren't for false and misleading claims, Morris wouldn't have anything to say.

Posted by stevensm in reply to stevensm

simply shocked

Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to clams casino

[satire]But it's just Dick Morris's opinion, and we have no system in place that would determine whether or not he's telling the truth, so there's absolutely nothing that Lauer could have said or done to clarify or correct Morris's statements.[satire off]

  • - clams casino / Wednesday June 25, 2008 2:56:21 PM EDT

I want to express my gratitude for all the people who didn't try to take this thread off topic like some previous threads on this site have gone. Those people are mysteriously absent from this thread - off licking their wounds??

Posted by juliajayne in reply to BottleBlonde

No, they're still measuring their penile projectiles. I'd call it for Jeter, but you know I'm biased. :-)

Posted by wzwriter

Dicky Boy needs to go back to sucking on prostitutes' toes - otherwise, he needs to keep his piehole shut.

Posted by wolf kotenberg

oh yeah, the " exclusive" interview of a " FOX contributor " on a "FOX program ". I am going to start using the " idiot " terminology more freely now.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to wolf kotenberg

I am going to start using the " idiot " terminology more freely now.

Eventually, when you look up the word "idiot" in the dictionary, you'll find a definition that reads "See Morris, Dick".   :-)

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to wzwriter

We're going to get dictionarys that call us names?

Can I get one that tells me how to spell the plural of "dictionary"?

"...ies, Jerk!"

Posted by juliajayne in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

You are many things vaudevillian quipster (say troll, bigot, you know the litany), but jerk is not one of them.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to juliajayne

Tell that to the name calling dicktionaree.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Tell that to the name calling dicktionaree.

Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a while back:

HOOKT ON FONIX
WERKT FER MEE"

:-)

Posted by mary59 in reply to wzwriter

nou downtt geat mea staurtted.

Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to mary59

I had a guy today tell me that I was an idiot and incompetent over the phone, all because my company will not bow down before him and do for him what he is demanding (he's being totally unreasonable - and I have explained how he's being unreasonable and how our company is behaving exactly as they should be).

Then he sends me an email telling me that I have "waisted" his time.

Who's the idiot?

Posted by mary59 in reply to BottleBlonde

His tyme kneads a belt.

Posted by TadekKorn in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Re: dicktionaree

I think you mean dick-sean-airy,  a FAUX News and commentary combo.

Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Nope, I was referrring directly to Morris. noone else here.

Posted by juliajayne

And people were just wondering yesterday if Dick Morris's new book will be fair to Obama? I mean it might be. It could be. 'Cause he is so right about so many things and so fair minded....Hmmn. I just wonder. I mean since he is the bulwark of journalistic probity and fount of much wisdom. 

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to juliajayne

Luckily, whenever I catch Dicky on Fox, it's usually balanced out by a follow-up interview with another Fox contributor. Karl Rove, for example.That's why they're America's Most Trusted Name in News™

Posted by historygeek001 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

You clearly watch Fox more regularly than I do, Col.  You also clearly have a stronger stomach than I do. 

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to historygeek001

I have a very powerful stomach. Just last night I caught an "All Star panel"; Brit Hume, the Beltway Boobs(Morty & Freddy) & that gargoyle Krauthammer. They were discussing the oil situation, and believe me , between those four, I got at least one distinct opinion. My gag reflex was tested, but I made it through.

Posted by mary59 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Bet you were chewing beetle nuts.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to mary59

They're good. It's just getting those little beetle legs apart that's a lot of work.

Posted by mary59 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

groan...

Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59

I knew he was kinky.

Posted by piniella

Morris spewed the same BS on Hannity's radio show yesterday.

Posted by IRONY 101

Dick should be thankful that Obama doesn't plan to tax toe sucking...then he'd squeal his disapproval like a little pink piglet.

Posted by newzhound

Little Dick said "...old ladies who clip coupons from corporate stocks get less money."  Could he be any more clueless?

Corporate stocks don't have coupons - if you're lucky they have dividends.  That are, I believed, taxed as ordinary income.  Bonds pay interest - and in the old days one clipped the interest coupon from the bond (corpus) and turned it in.  Interest.  Ordinary income.

When stocks are sold one might (if fortunate) have a short- or long-term capital gain.  Same with a bond.

In other words, poor Little Dick should stick to discussing what he understands...I'm just not sure what the heck that would be.

Posted by mary59 in reply to newzhound

Seeing that he is an extreme ignoramus, why is he appearing on the Today show?!! Wait, wait, don't tell me...

Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59

Wait, wait, don't tell me...
  • - mary59 / Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:10:59 PM EDT

 

Now girl, you're all mixed up. That wait, wait don't tell me show is on NPR. :-0) 

And hey, girl, why aren't you participating in todays version of the pissing match over on the Savage Weiner thread? ('Scuse the vulgarity).

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to juliajayne

Hey, JJ. I think I'm going to start skipping the first item of the day when I come to this site. That seems to be the one where Hymie the Robot digs his hole and won't stop digging until he's ready to hit the fainting couch. (although it's tough to resist helping him dig sometimes)

Posted by juliajayne in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Colonel, I saw your two videos. Best thing on that thread. There was so much concrete flyin' yesterday and today I thought I was on a construction site.

Posted by mary59 in reply to juliajayne

You mean all the folks saying that Weiner aint necessarily a racist dirtbag? ;-)

Actually it's hard to fathom what he really thinks, because like most of the wing nuts, he presents us only with a cartoon image of himself.

Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59

You mean all the folks saying that Weiner aint necessarily a racist dirtbag? ;-)

 

Yeah, yeah, you got it, Sis. And yesterday's was the phony censorship meme. Idiot's don't know our press is like 50 something in the world for bein' "free".

Posted by mary59 in reply to juliajayne

#50: what an audacious statement....we're always #1!!! When I woke up this morning, I knew I was #1 just like every American. Free to get wire tapped and put on a watch list and can shout anything from my little razor wire enclosure.

Posted by juliajayne in reply to juliajayne

There is censorship in the media by the very fact that it is owned by large corporations and moneyed elite that get to control the flow of information, guests and show formats. That was evident back when Phil Donahue, Charles Grodin and Ashley Banfield (all who deigned to speak the truth about the war) got canned from CNBC and MSNBC. And even Jesse Ventura who was supposed to have taken Phil Donahue's place had to have his contract paid off (and got no show) when it was learned he was not for the war.

Reposting from yesterday's Dicky Morris thread.

 

Posted by mary59 in reply to juliajayne

Thomas Jefferson would never have gotten on the air, much less had his own show. Waaay too radical. How dare he insult king George.

Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59

Ha! Even if he did have a show, I'm sure Steve Capus would fire him too.

Posted by MoonbatYouBet

More like:

The capital gains tax changes proposed by Obama will make it so that those who make millions buying and selling stocks without actually producing any goods or services themselves will no longer pay half the tax rate of those who invested in mutual funds to rpovide for their own retirements.  They will make so that those who manipulate the real estate market will not enjoy the same tax breaks as those who sell their family home.  They will end the arbitrary cut off of social security payments for those individuals who make more than $100,000 annually.

Oh wait, that would be the truth and telling the truth would reveal how badly these pundits just want to protect the fortunes of themselves and their masters while pretending they care about average Americans. 

Posted by BottleBlonde

They're doing it again.

When Kerry was running, they tried to turn his strengths into weaknesses and did a pretty good job of it. He was a war hero. His military history was something to be proud of. They turned it into a liability.

Here, Obama's got some great ideas about how to bring in more income without hurting the people who cannot afford to give much more to the government. Morris is trying to turn his good ideas into crap by lying about them, just like the SBVT's lied about John Kerry's Navy record.

Very few of the people listening to this show will ever feel the pain that Morris mentions.

I don't get how they snow the folks they way they do. They act like they're out for the little guy when they're out only for themselves and other rich people like themselves.

Just the other day, on Sunday, Brit Hume said something like "I'd like to be rich"! Give me a break. No network star like he is isn't rich. He's 65 years old, so he's been working and getting raises all his adult life. His wife is a bigwig with Fox News too. Back in 2007, Shepard Smith signed a 3 year contract for about $7 million a year. I think it's undeniable that Hume makes in the millions each year, and he had the nerve to claim that he's not rich?

Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to BottleBlonde

Hume has been rich for so long and has walked only among the rich and powerful for so long, that being "rich" for him is making tens of millions of dollars a year,

Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to BottleBlonde

Hume has been rich for so long and has walked only among the rich and powerful for so long, that being "rich" for him is making tens of millions of dollars a year, not

Posted by mary59 in reply to foghornleghorn

That's a joke...I say, that's a joke son.

Posted by nerzog in reply to BottleBlonde

Well, see, he's doing that so that he can say, with a straight face, that someone making over $250,000 is "middle class". Then he can wring his hands and wail that Obama is threatening to raise taxes on the "middle class".

Posted by juliajayne in reply to nerzog

Yeah, he's related to Charles Gibson. Oh, but they're all related. Inbreeding is a terrible thing.

Posted by newzhound

Remember "Carnac the Magnificent!?"

The answer is "Fleeced."

The question is "How do you describe someone who bought Little Dick Morris' new book?"

Posted by donaldmaddog5642

Beware! Prissy Dickey is NOT stupid or misinformed. He is a paid shill for the GOP and it is so obvious it is hilarious. Do you honestly believe the Grand Old Farty is going to allow some elitist, black, america-hating, flag-pen rejecting, manchurian candidate WIN this election. Rest assured that Johnny Mac has already worked out a personnel chart, ready for penciling in the names of turn-coats like Prissy Dicky. Morris will be our next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs or Special Council to the President. Billy O-my-God O'Reilly will be the Press Secretary and William Kristol is already being groomed for Secretary of State. Poor old David Brooks will be White House groundskeeper. While we chuckle and smirk and have fun with Dick and Sean, watch your back.

Posted by juliajayne in reply to donaldmaddog5642

Donald, you're scaring me :-)

Posted by donaldmaddog5642 in reply to juliajayne

JULIAJAYNE,

When all this takes place, don't come running to me saying, "Why didn't you TELL us?" I go all the way back to FDR, Kid. Nobody's gonna sneak up on Mad Dog!

Posted by mari2jj2970

Can anyone explain to me why we give any credence to this guy who allowed his prostitute paramour to listen in to a security sensitive phone call.  The guy has no repect for his country, he was terrible to his wife and so, who needs some creep like that telling all of us hwo to bahave.  When he cleans up his own act and apologizes to the country, I might, well will, really I WILL pay atterntion to what he says.  Till them I would be very happy if he would just shut his mouth.