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Dick Morris repeated false and misleading claims about Obama's tax proposals on Hannity & Colmes and Today
Summary: On Fox News, Dick Morris asserted that as president, Sen. Barack Obama "would double the capital gains tax. That means that you get far less when you sell your home, or your 401(k) or your stock plan," and added, "[H]e would increase the limit on Social Security taxes, which means instead of paying 12 1/2 percent of the first $100,000, you pay it on everything that you're making." Morris' claims are false or highly misleading.
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Posted by nerzog
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 2:53:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by clams casino
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 2:56:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by stevensm in reply to clams casino
"Dick Morris repeated false and misleading claims"
What?! I'm shocked, simly shocked!
If it weren't for false and misleading claims, Morris wouldn't have anything to say.
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 4:56:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by stevensm in reply to stevensm
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 4:56:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to clams casino
[satire]But it's just Dick Morris's opinion, and we have no system in place that would determine whether or not he's telling the truth, so there's absolutely nothing that Lauer could have said or done to clarify or correct Morris's statements.[satire off]
I want to express my gratitude for all the people who didn't try to take this thread off topic like some previous threads on this site have gone. Those people are mysteriously absent from this thread - off licking their wounds??
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:04:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to BottleBlonde
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:10:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:15:13 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:26:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to wolf kotenberg
I am going to start using the " idiot " terminology more freely now.
Eventually, when you look up the word "idiot" in the dictionary, you'll find a definition that reads "See Morris, Dick". :-)
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:31:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to wzwriter
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:34:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Can I get one that tells me how to spell the plural of "dictionary"?
"...ies, Jerk!"
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:35:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:39:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to juliajayne
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:41:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Tell that to the name calling dicktionaree.
Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a while back:
HOOKT ON FONIX
WERKT FER MEE"
:-)
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 4:08:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to wzwriter
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:08:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to mary59
I had a guy today tell me that I was an idiot and incompetent over the phone, all because my company will not bow down before him and do for him what he is demanding (he's being totally unreasonable - and I have explained how he's being unreasonable and how our company is behaving exactly as they should be).
Then he sends me an email telling me that I have "waisted" his time.
Who's the idiot?
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:34:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to BottleBlonde
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:31:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by TadekKorn in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Re: dicktionaree
I think you mean dick-sean-airy, a FAUX News and commentary combo.
Posted Thursday June 26, 2008 3:49:36 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:42:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne
And people were just wondering yesterday if Dick Morris's new book will be fair to Obama? I mean it might be. It could be. 'Cause he is so right about so many things and so fair minded....Hmmn. I just wonder. I mean since he is the bulwark of journalistic probity and fount of much wisdom.
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:29:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to juliajayne
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:32:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by historygeek001 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 4:11:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to historygeek001
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 4:32:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:09:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to mary59
They're good. It's just getting those little beetle legs apart that's a lot of work.
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:14:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:41:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:42:19 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by piniella
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:35:58 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 3:44:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by newzhound
Little Dick said "...old ladies who clip coupons from corporate stocks get less money." Could he be any more clueless?
Corporate stocks don't have coupons - if you're lucky they have dividends. That are, I believed, taxed as ordinary income. Bonds pay interest - and in the old days one clipped the interest coupon from the bond (corpus) and turned it in. Interest. Ordinary income.
When stocks are sold one might (if fortunate) have a short- or long-term capital gain. Same with a bond.
In other words, poor Little Dick should stick to discussing what he understands...I'm just not sure what the heck that would be.
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 4:06:05 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to newzhound
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:10:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59
Now girl, you're all mixed up. That wait, wait don't tell me show is on NPR. :-0)
And hey, girl, why aren't you participating in todays version of the pissing match over on the Savage Weiner thread? ('Scuse the vulgarity).
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:26:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to juliajayne
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:19:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:44:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to juliajayne
Actually it's hard to fathom what he really thinks, because like most of the wing nuts, he presents us only with a cartoon image of himself.
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:34:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59
You mean all the folks saying that Weiner aint necessarily a racist dirtbag? ;-)
Yeah, yeah, you got it, Sis. And yesterday's was the phony censorship meme. Idiot's don't know our press is like 50 something in the world for bein' "free".
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:41:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to juliajayne
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:55:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to juliajayne
There is censorship in the media by the very fact that it is owned by large corporations and moneyed elite that get to control the flow of information, guests and show formats. That was evident back when Phil Donahue, Charles Grodin and Ashley Banfield (all who deigned to speak the truth about the war) got canned from CNBC and MSNBC. And even Jesse Ventura who was supposed to have taken Phil Donahue's place had to have his contract paid off (and got no show) when it was learned he was not for the war.
Reposting from yesterday's Dicky Morris thread.
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 7:21:35 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to juliajayne
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Posted by juliajayne in reply to mary59
Posted Thursday June 26, 2008 2:30:28 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by MoonbatYouBet
More like:
The capital gains tax changes proposed by Obama will make it so that those who make millions buying and selling stocks without actually producing any goods or services themselves will no longer pay half the tax rate of those who invested in mutual funds to rpovide for their own retirements. They will make so that those who manipulate the real estate market will not enjoy the same tax breaks as those who sell their family home. They will end the arbitrary cut off of social security payments for those individuals who make more than $100,000 annually.
Oh wait, that would be the truth and telling the truth would reveal how badly these pundits just want to protect the fortunes of themselves and their masters while pretending they care about average Americans.
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:12:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde
They're doing it again.
When Kerry was running, they tried to turn his strengths into weaknesses and did a pretty good job of it. He was a war hero. His military history was something to be proud of. They turned it into a liability.
Here, Obama's got some great ideas about how to bring in more income without hurting the people who cannot afford to give much more to the government. Morris is trying to turn his good ideas into crap by lying about them, just like the SBVT's lied about John Kerry's Navy record.
Very few of the people listening to this show will ever feel the pain that Morris mentions.
I don't get how they snow the folks they way they do. They act like they're out for the little guy when they're out only for themselves and other rich people like themselves.
Just the other day, on Sunday, Brit Hume said something like "I'd like to be rich"! Give me a break. No network star like he is isn't rich. He's 65 years old, so he's been working and getting raises all his adult life. His wife is a bigwig with Fox News too. Back in 2007, Shepard Smith signed a 3 year contract for about $7 million a year. I think it's undeniable that Hume makes in the millions each year, and he had the nerve to claim that he's not rich?
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 5:31:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to BottleBlonde
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Posted by nerzog in reply to BottleBlonde
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Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:38:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by newzhound
Remember "Carnac the Magnificent!?"
The answer is "Fleeced."
The question is "How do you describe someone who bought Little Dick Morris' new book?"
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 6:41:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 7:44:14 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to donaldmaddog5642
Posted Wednesday June 25, 2008 7:49:18 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642 in reply to juliajayne
When all this takes place, don't come running to me saying, "Why didn't you TELL us?" I go all the way back to FDR, Kid. Nobody's gonna sneak up on Mad Dog!
Posted Thursday June 26, 2008 12:57:45 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mari2jj2970
Posted Thursday June 26, 2008 12:12:41 AM EDT / Flag this comment