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Note to NPR: The only time Mississippi has ever gotten anything out of the federal government is ... always

Summary: Reporting on U.S. Senate candidates campaigning at a Mississippi county fair, NPR's Debbie Elliott uncritically aired a clip of one fairgoer claiming that the "[o]nly time we have ever gotten anything out of the federal government was when the Republicans were there." In fact, according to the Tax Foundation, from 1981 through 2005, Mississippi has consistently received more from the federal government than the state's residents pay in taxes.
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Posted by wzwriter

No one could expect James Mayfield to know what he was talking about.  After all, he's a Republican from Mississippi - the state that kept electing Trent Lott......

Posted by the Grey Path in reply to wzwriter

Why did Mississippi gets a lot more assistance than Louisiana after Katrina?   Hateful Hailey Barbour, former Chairman of the RNC, is Governor.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to the Grey Path

Plus the City of New Orleans was heavily Democratic.  More illegal activity by the Bush Crime Syndicate, aka the Bush Misadministration.

Posted by anotheramerican

When you take into account the cost of a first class stamp then yes, Mississippi got more back than they sent it. :-) 

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to anotheramerican

oops. sent in...

Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership in reply to anotheramerican

What is it about stupidity that conservatives are so attracted to?

Posted by DEMS_SOL in reply to Limit Corp. Ownership

We like eradicating it from Liberals - a seemingly impossible task I do admit.!

Posted by Ro in reply to DEMS_SOL

That unbelievably inane.

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to Limit Corp. Ownership

Psst. It was a joke son. 

Posted by Governor in reply to anotheramerican

I think your Peter Griffith as Andy Rooney routine needs work.  I just ate 12 pot brownies and that's still not funny. 

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to Governor

I'm just guessing - but do your brownies smell a lot like oregano?

Posted by MoonbatYouBet in reply to anotheramerican

I'm beginning to think that you are actually trying to come off as a complete idiot.  What part of the phrase "pot brownies" called for you to try and insert some sort of innuendo about marijuana usage. 

2 free humor tips for you:  1)  Once someone has stated something explicitly, subtle hinting is no longer comic.  2)  Smiley faces do not automatically equal funny.

Posted by Brabantio in reply to MoonbatYouBet

To be fair, I think the point was that Governor only thought they were pot brownies, but the pot was actually oregano.  So he wasn't hinting at the same thing Governor said, he was playing off of it.

The smiley face thing is a valid point though, to be sure. 

Posted by MoonbatYouBet in reply to Brabantio

To be completely unfair, I think you may be misunderestimatizing AA's shortcomings.

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to MoonbatYouBet

Thank you for sticking up for me. :-) 

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to Brabantio

Brab,

I find the irony rather humorous myself; being lectured to by people about what is funny when they obviously didn't understand the gist of the joke. 

Humor is in the brain of the beholder. There's no accounting for it. Arguing with someone over what they think is funny and you don't is an exercise in futility.

Heck, some people here think juvenile insults are droll.  Personally, I find them drool. 

:-)  

Posted by princeofwheels in reply to anotheramerican

To hell with all of you, pass the BROWNIES. Good job (on those) BROWNIES

Posted by Kaliman

I interpreted the lack of comment as an indicator of how ignorant the guy who said it was.  It was a stand-alone comment meant to show how in the pocket of Republicans (and all that may stand for) Mississipians are. 

Posted by wzwriter in reply to Kaliman

I interpreted the lack of comment as an indicator of how ignorant the guy who said it was.  It was a stand-alone comment meant to show how in the pocket of Republicans (and all that may stand for) Mississipians are. 

And it shows how the GOP caters to the stupid.

Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership in reply to wzwriter

They own the stupid vote,

No doubt about it.

 

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to Limit Corp. Ownership

Sorry 8,

You just proved it wrong. :-) 

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to Kaliman

And the hypocricy is that these same Republican Mississippians would object (no, they would scream bloody murder) to any of their precious federal tax dollars being directed to helping any poor black people in the state. They won't say it on camera, but hang out in the local diner or bar in small town Mississippi...

Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to IRONY 101

In Texas it's the "Mexicans". What they mean by "Mexicans" in many small communities is Americans of Mexican heritage. The older white folks feel burdened by the poorer people in town. Of course, they ignore the fact that a big reason they're the poorer people is generations of discrimination by the whites! It's not like blacks in Mississippi or "Mexicans" in Texas are genetically inferior or culturally inferior.

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to IRONY 101

Irony,

I find it rather amusing that you use a stereotype of a racist as your "Republican" detector. Sorry. Your prejudice is as bad as the one you claim belong to Mississippi Republicans.

 

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to anotheramerican

AA, Mississippi Republicans are, generally speaking, racists. They won't say certain things in front of a camera (well, the ignorant ones might) but talk to them privately and it's quite obvious they are (although some will deny it when called on it). Unless you live in the South you have absolutely no idea what it's like...it's a whole 'nuther world, man. I stand by what I said.

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to IRONY 101

Irony,

You don't know if the racists are Democrats, Republicans, or more likely, not affiliated and don't vote.

Again you are stereotyping millions of people as racists based on your very limited exposure to people who hang out in bars.  That is simply laughable.  

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to anotheramerican

AA, probably about 80% of white voters in Mississippi identify themselves as Republican (I'll try to find you the cite.). Essentially, although with some exception, the Republican Party in Mississippi is regarded as the white party. Mississippi also has a very big chapter of the racist Council of Conservative Citizens. In fact, Haley Barbour spoke to them and his picture has been used on their website. Do you think these are Democrats?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Conservative_Citizens

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to IRONY 101

BTW, AA, have you ever even been to Mississippi and spent any time time there interacting with the people. I have all my life. For someone who has not been to Mississippi and interacted with the people there to deny that Mississippi is a racist state is what is truly laughable.

I think some people like you don't get out enough in the real world...

Posted by Hellsau in reply to IRONY 101

"Mississippi is a racist state"

 Mississippi isn't racist. It was one of the greatest states!

 That was before the people moved there, of course.

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to anotheramerican

your very limited exposure to people who hang out in bars. 

Please go to any local white diner, grocery store or bar in any rural Mississippi town...or Louisiana, for that matter, too. There you are likely to find the people who are extremely open in their racism. But, please also go to a white Republican country club in Mississippi and report back to me what you hear from the members after a few drinks. AA, you have no idea what you are talking about...

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to IRONY 101

AA doesn't even know he's a racist, I wouldn't expect him to recognize it in others.

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Just to be clear, I'm not at all accusing AA of being a racist...or that all white Mississippians are racists. But you can't deny Mississippi's heritage of racism. Many upper crust white Mississippians trace their family fortunes back to the days of slavery and the inferiority of blacks is almost an institutionalized attitude. Of course, some progress is being made. For example, white and black church congregations are beginning to reach out to one another. And Mississippi has the largest per capita number of elected black officials...although that is somewhat of an illusion as we are speaking of primarily areas. But, generally speaking, it's a white Republican power structure that controls things and they play off the racism of the white populace. You really have to spend some time there to understand...

Posted by MRF

This is a state where the residents pay a sales tax on groceries. Attempts to roll it back and make the structure more progressive have been beaten back by the likes of Barbour and his corporate cronies. Nothing like voting against your own interest.

 http://www.cbpp.org/3-16-06sfp3.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/07/AR2007030700240.html

Republican Gov. Haley Barbour opposes the bill saying he doesn't want to change the grocery tax rate while the state still faces economic uncertainty 18 months after Hurricane Katrina.  Similarly, Republican Sen. Tommy Robertson, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, opposes the legislation, arguing that the poorest families pay no grocery tax because their food stamp purchases are tax exempt.

But others disagree.  Alan Nunnelee, the Republican chairman of the Senate Public Health Committee, said reducing the grocery tax and boosting the cigarette excise tax are equally beneficial.

"Our citizens smoke and get sick because they smoke much more so than citizens of other states.  And I have to believe that in some way that's tied to the fact that we have the third lowest cigarette tax in the nation," Nunnelee said.  "But there is a corresponding issue that I think is equally a public health issue, and that's a sales tax on groceries."

Source: Emily Wagster Pettus, "Mississippi's high grocery tax debated," Houston Chronicle, March 7, 2007.

 

Posted by shaggles in reply to MRF

Wow.  I live in Washington and we haven't had sales tax on groceries for about 30 years.

Posted by proudconservative

Media Matters (very little) goes after the real enemy.....Mississippi fairgoers!!

MM(vl) has uncovered the evil that resides in NPR.  Imagine letting a 'fairgoer' speak his mind for the sole purpose of undermining the free world!  Oh the humanity!  How can we remain silent while the world watches the destruction of civilization?

MM(vl), thanks for taking such a courageous position!  Keep on keeping on!

Posted by wzwriter in reply to proudconservative

Well - "Nothing To-Be-Proud-Of" Conservative just slithered in, dumped some useless drek in this thread, and crawled back under his rock once again.  Can Taz and Shoes be far behind??

Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership in reply to wzwriter

Hey Proud...

Can you ever post anything that

1)  Makes a lick of Sense

2)  Is actually relevant to the thread

I just e-mailed Debbie Elliott...

NPR is really losing a lot of credibility with this kind of garbage.  They know they can't overtly spread the filth themselves, so they find surrogates sitting on porches.

lazyrider & McCain's lodging,

So sorry to have interrupted the highly important thread that shows how NPR is in the tank for Republicans.  This is a pretty lame, even for MM(vl) standards, pre-emptive strike against the facists at NPR.  

This is about as relevant as figuring out if Obama is first, fifth or seventeenth most liberal in the democrat beauty pageant.

Posted by mefirst in reply to proudconservative

the point is that they had a person expressing something as a fact, when it was not true.  this stuff is the type of crap that is passed off as "commentary", when it's nothing more than a lot of blather. 

Posted by proudconservative in reply to mefirst

yousomewhereinthemuddle,

So you would agree the statement below had no place in the story since it's implications were false and biased as well?

REAGAN: I know that in speaking to this crowd, that I'm speaking to what has to be about 90 percent Democrats. [crowd boos] I just meant -- I just meant by party affiliation. I didn't mean how you feel now.

ELLIOTT: He went on to express support for states' rights, a controversial statement considered code for segregation in a part of the country with a violent history. Neshoba County was where Klansmen killed three civil rights workers in 1964.

The linkage with Reagan and something that happened in 1964 is outrageous!  This rather than one fairgoer's opinion is what is reprehensible about the NPR story.

Now that's at least an interesting point Proud...

Your feigned outrage about Elliott's including Reagan's States' rights schtick.

Everyone knows Reagan was playing the race card.  He admitted it himself.  He was a filthy conservative punk.  Old Red Ink Reagan.

7degreesofmccain,

He admitted it?  How so?

Posted by mefirst in reply to proudconservative

what was incorrect in the statement?  reagan did speak about state's rights, and many do see that as  "code words" [it clearly was, because it was used by many southern segrationists], and that county was where the three civil rights workers were killed.  what's false?

Posted by mefirst in reply to mefirst

and reagan opened his campaign there.  they looked long and wide and that was what they came up with to start the campaign. 

Posted by mefirst in reply to mefirst

should be "segregationists".

Posted by neondesert in reply to proudconservative

You need commas after "This" and "opinion" in your last sentence.

Proud, once again, (there may be a position for you at NPR)

You don't win converts by making silly posts.

3doublewidesofclinton,

Sorry to disagree but the point was how silly this idea of NPR tanking the democrat party with one 'fairgoer's' comment, according to MM(vl).

And as for making a point, sometimes satire cuts to the quick better than feigned outrage at supposed media bias against the left.

Posted by mefirst in reply to proudconservative

they didn't claim that it would tank the democratic party.  mmfa said they  ran an opinion by a voter who was attacking the democrats, and that opinion was untrue. 

Proud,

I have to admit, your funny rewrites of different posters "monikers" are pretty funny,

but, come on man, it would be better if you didn't make posts that were really, really stupid. You've made some decent posts at times.

You're a smart guy.  We'll respect you if you make a decent post.

Posted by neondesert in reply to proudconservative

"even for MM(vl) standards" should have been contained within either hyphens or parenthesis, not commas.

Posted by neondesert in reply to proudconservative

Media Matters (very little) goes after the real enemy.....Mississippi fairgoers!!

You should have used a colon after "enemy" instead of  ellipses.  Thusly:

Media Matters (very little) goes after the real enemy: Mississippi fairgoers!!

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to neondesert

You're really putting the punk in punctuation today, Neon. I like to see a people-helper.

BTW, not to brag, but I got to open for dread Zeppelin a couple of times. Very nice chaps.

Posted by proudconservative in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

kernal,

Tsk, tsk.  You did brag but kudos anyway.  Did they sing Stairway to H-E double touthpicks as part of their reptoire?

Posted by neondesert in reply to proudconservative

That should be "repertoire".

And...geez... DON'T COMMENT ON THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

Sorry.  I'm trying to help, and I lost my temper.  Just....stay away from the music, 'kay?

Posted by neondesert in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Thanks, Col.  I just hate to see a poster display such a lack of intelligence on both subject and technique.  I figured I'd see if I couldn't help out with the technique since that would be easiest.

I didn't even know you played.  Bragging is cool in that case.  Other than singing backup for Manilow, I have pretty much nothing on my resume of any note.  Dread has been one of the most fun shows I have ever had the pleasure of seeing.  Love the concept, and the music is entirely listenable.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to neondesert

I'm a mostly retired musician these days , aside from some enthusiastic "playing with myself", or solo musical destruction. I somehow ended up playing bass in a band that played bad 80s covers and tv theme songs to drunks about 10-15 years ago. It was a temporary fill-in, like a one-time experiment with Oxycontin, that rolled into a shameful years-long disgrace.

Posted by proudconservative in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Will you two go find a room for yourselves, please?

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to proudconservative

Or you could go back to the big dry-erase board by your bunk bed, and work on some new "clever*" wordplay on the names of other posters. Why don't you do that? It's really the most interesting part of your posts, everything being relative.

*NOTE:May not contain actual cleverness

Posted by neondesert in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Nothing to be ashamed of.  After being out of music for about 20 some-odd years myself, I'd join a polka band just to play again.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to neondesert

It was the only band I was in that got paid pretty regular, and stoopid enough that DredZep could have us open without their shtick being too much of a leap. And I'm on a waiting list to get in a Polka band.

Posted by eweston8542983 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Can I be the tubaphone player?

Posted by peebs755

If I remember correctly, most of the "Red States" get more than they pay in tax help from the Feds. "Blue States", on the whole pay more than they receive from the Feds. So its humorous to hear righties in those "Red" states complain about their taxes. Also, when I've been visiting in the South, I've had no problem finding Racists. They have no problem letting you know how they feel.