Is T Boone Pickens paying for these ads ?

Why is MM so dishonest?

MM: "the Times failed to note that Sen. John McCain has voted against legislation to fund the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq."

Those bills had a withdrawal timeline attached to them. That is something McCain has been completely against, and that is why McCain voted against them.

If "conservative misinformation" is really the problem that MM claims that it is, why do they have to be so dishonest?

Not cool, MM. Not ... cool ... at ... all.

Regardless of what was in those bills or why he voted the way he did, McCain DID vote against them, Shoes - that's a fact. So the only one being dishonest here is you. 

As usual....

And Obama voted against the bill before him because it DIDN'T have a timeline. Same kind of reasoning. So its mis-information to not note that McCain did EXACTLY the same thing, but for the revese reason.

Why is SHOES99  so dishonest?

The bills that Obama voted against had no withdrawal timeline attached to them. A timetable is something Obama has always been for, and that is why Obama voted against them.

Not cool, SHOES99. Not ... cool ... at ... all.

You need to inform yourself about what your candidate is actually saying!

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gF1ulxhgHBB7Fr0LKa4pA0zVeXCQD93I3VGO0

D'oh!

Do you understand what intellectual dishonesty is?  Look it up. 

"I can't think of anything that would be a worse defeat for the United States than to pull out before we have achieved our goals,"

And those goals are...?

Victory ...by winning, the surge is working...........we are mavericks...and so on goes the bullsit !

OT, but I can't help myself today. This is what republicans want in a leader...

Just what we need. another president with no exit strategy.

and this is the first line on the Vets for freedom home page

Vets for Freedom is a nonpartisan organization established by combat veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

bunch of liars right off the bat. While in the service of this country they are under command of the Commander -in-chief. They have served the political needs of George W Bush and noone else.

"I can't think of anything that would be a worse defeat for the United States than to pull out before we have achieved our goals"

But wasn't the mission already accomplished????

With apologies to Chey Chase, "a frustrated Iraq refused to comment".

I meant Chevy Chase, of course.

When reached for his reaction to the story, Generallissimo Francisco Franco was too dead to comment.

It is incredible to me that for the last 7 years so many people have failed to 'get' that both major parties have been taken over by interests that are, in effect, a PR team for the same people now demanding the bail out. 

Even the TITLE of the Fund book is a joke.  It was planned to inject him into the dialogue so he could plant disinformation for the same people who made sure he has a job, the neocon branch of the PR team.  He was writing it in 1999; he did not finish for 2004, which got him demerits. 

And you have Alteredman as a colunmist.  I guess that is enough of a commentary, actually.  If you can't think you deserve what you get.

Here is what Tonto told Zorro when attacked by indians in a ravine

We are in trouble, Tonto !

to which Tonto said " We ? What do you mean we, Kemo-Sabe ? "

the ruling party in this country is in trouble and suddenly they, along with their support group, are screaming we are all at fault, ignoring they had a solid control of the Unites States government for 7 years. 

Tonto and Zorro?  Really?

If you're going to tell a joke to illustrate a point...it would be REAL helpful to get it right!

Tonto and the Lone Ranger were surrounded by hostile Indians.  The Lone Ranger said "Looks like we're in trouble, Tonto" and Tonto replied "What'cha mean WE, paleface?"

I stand corrected. It is possible the version i heard was a little different than the original. In my youth I frequented bars and heard many stories. Yeah, i am wrong, Zorro was Diego Garcia, a wealthy spaniard and modern version of Robin hood. got my heroes mixed up.

themelinda wrote:

>>It is incredible to me that for the last 7 years so many people have failed to 'get' that both major parties have been taken over by interests that are, in effect, a PR team for the same people now demanding the bail out.

The topic here is the inaccurate ad by McCain. How did you manage to work in the fiscal crisis? Did you do so just to repeat the line "both parties are to blame?" I recall President Bush and the Republicans pushing for the stupid and disatrous war in Iraq, not the Dems.

I noticed that they no longer have the word "Truth" in their organization's name.  Probably because they're nothing but a pack of scumbag liars.

Somewhat connected, but did you read the rolling stones article about McCain? Man, it's pretty heavy hitting. I liked this line in particular:

In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot.

I would like to see George W Bush's log book.

It's been classified top secret for reasons of national security.  If we question his competence, the terrorists win.

I would like to see George W Bush's log book.

I want to see his attendance records and the results of his drug tests.

I think they took that out when they were absorbed into the U.S. Ministry of Truth!  (aka The Bush Administration)

I think they took that out when they were absorbed into the U.S. Ministry of Truth!  (aka The Bush Administration)

I figured it was taken out because of that organization's overall lack of "truthiness".